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		<title>By: Steph</title>
		<link>http://www.followsteph.com/2006/11/27/landlordmax-v311-sneak-peak/comment-page-1/#comment-2271</link>
		<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 03:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the link. I just took a preliminary look at it does look very interesting. I will definitely be following this closely. 

Btw, in case I haven&#039;t mentioned it yet, if any of you reading this are new to JFreeReport, go check them out. They have an excellent product!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the link. I just took a preliminary look at it does look very interesting. I will definitely be following this closely. </p>
<p>Btw, in case I haven&#8217;t mentioned it yet, if any of you reading this are new to JFreeReport, go check them out. They have an excellent product!</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.followsteph.com/2006/11/27/landlordmax-v311-sneak-peak/comment-page-1/#comment-2236</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 19:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I have been busy and forgot to check your response.

The forum at 

http://www.jfree.org/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=21

discusses JFreeReport 0.9.

Of particular interest: The &quot;Roadmap: JFreeReport&quot; topic discusses a lot of the performance inprovements, and the &quot;0.8 Compatibility&quot; topic mentions that a compatability layer will be available for older versions of JFreeReport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I have been busy and forgot to check your response.</p>
<p>The forum at </p>
<p><a href="http://www.jfree.org/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=21" rel="nofollow">http://www.jfree.org/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=21</a></p>
<p>discusses JFreeReport 0.9.</p>
<p>Of particular interest: The &#8220;Roadmap: JFreeReport&#8221; topic discusses a lot of the performance inprovements, and the &#8220;0.8 Compatibility&#8221; topic mentions that a compatability layer will be available for older versions of JFreeReport.</p>
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		<title>By: Steph</title>
		<link>http://www.followsteph.com/2006/11/27/landlordmax-v311-sneak-peak/comment-page-1/#comment-2119</link>
		<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to add to my previous comment, when I say that the other performance enhancements become more noticeable with size, by this I mean tables with over 50,000 entries! The difference is a few seconds compared to virtually instantaneous. If you look at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.landlordmax.com/releaseNotes.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;performance video from the release notes&lt;/a&gt;, this means that the 4 seconds to process 30,000 accounting entries and 1,000 scheduled accounting entries, would probably drop down to under 1 second! Of course since I&#039;m recording the video and audio on the same three year old computer, it&#039;ll be a little bit more, but it would be almost undetectable. 

We decided that for version 3.11 this was already such a large performance enhancement that it wasn&#039;t worth delaying releasing it anymore for a few seconds of processing only for very large databases. Not many of our customers have 2000+ units stored in one desktop application.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to add to my previous comment, when I say that the other performance enhancements become more noticeable with size, by this I mean tables with over 50,000 entries! The difference is a few seconds compared to virtually instantaneous. If you look at the <a href="http://www.landlordmax.com/releaseNotes.html" rel="nofollow">performance video from the release notes</a>, this means that the 4 seconds to process 30,000 accounting entries and 1,000 scheduled accounting entries, would probably drop down to under 1 second! Of course since I&#8217;m recording the video and audio on the same three year old computer, it&#8217;ll be a little bit more, but it would be almost undetectable. </p>
<p>We decided that for version 3.11 this was already such a large performance enhancement that it wasn&#8217;t worth delaying releasing it anymore for a few seconds of processing only for very large databases. Not many of our customers have 2000+ units stored in one desktop application.</p>
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		<title>By: Steph</title>
		<link>http://www.followsteph.com/2006/11/27/landlordmax-v311-sneak-peak/comment-page-1/#comment-2117</link>
		<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ryan,

Thanks! We&#039;ve really been pushing the performance envelop for version 3.11. We&#039;re also expecting to do some other great performance enhancements for the next version which we had to postpone to the next version for now. To give you a little teaser, we found out with the help of JProfiler, that the database engine we use is less efficient when we make calls on the results with the column name versus the column index. This might seem silly, but we found that with larger datasets it becomes more and more noticeable, enough that I personally believe it&#039;s worth it. So we&#039;re hoping to also add this change sooner than later.

As for JFreeReport, you&#039;re absolutely right, we do use it. It&#039;s a great piece of Open Source software!

In regards to performance, as far as I understood the biggest gains were in upgrading to 0.8.9-10 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jfree.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=18850&amp;highlight=performance&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I even posted a message to the forum about this&lt;/a&gt;. Based on the performance differences, and the fact that version 0.8 (based on information from their head developer) will eventually be able to print combined reports (which is great if you want to print multiple invoices directly within the invoice list) we definitely upgraded to the latest 0.8 version. 

As for version 0.9, I didn&#039;t realize they were planning on offering that much of a performance enhancement. Do you have any links to some of the discussions, I&#039;d be very interested in reading up on it.

As for upgrading LandlordMax to 0.9, this is definitely in our road map, it&#039;s just a matter of when. As with any software, a large part of the decision is the cost to benefit analysis. 

With version 3.11 we just upgraded from an older version to the latest, and this involved a very significant amount of effort. Every single report had to be modified and adjusted in many places (over 100 reports), as well the code base had changed in many ways which required a good number of code changes in our application as well.

So to answer your question, yes we plan to upgrade, it&#039;s just a matter of when.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ryan,</p>
<p>Thanks! We&#8217;ve really been pushing the performance envelop for version 3.11. We&#8217;re also expecting to do some other great performance enhancements for the next version which we had to postpone to the next version for now. To give you a little teaser, we found out with the help of JProfiler, that the database engine we use is less efficient when we make calls on the results with the column name versus the column index. This might seem silly, but we found that with larger datasets it becomes more and more noticeable, enough that I personally believe it&#8217;s worth it. So we&#8217;re hoping to also add this change sooner than later.</p>
<p>As for JFreeReport, you&#8217;re absolutely right, we do use it. It&#8217;s a great piece of Open Source software!</p>
<p>In regards to performance, as far as I understood the biggest gains were in upgrading to 0.8.9-10 <a href="http://www.jfree.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=18850&amp;highlight=performance" rel="nofollow">I even posted a message to the forum about this</a>. Based on the performance differences, and the fact that version 0.8 (based on information from their head developer) will eventually be able to print combined reports (which is great if you want to print multiple invoices directly within the invoice list) we definitely upgraded to the latest 0.8 version. </p>
<p>As for version 0.9, I didn&#8217;t realize they were planning on offering that much of a performance enhancement. Do you have any links to some of the discussions, I&#8217;d be very interested in reading up on it.</p>
<p>As for upgrading LandlordMax to 0.9, this is definitely in our road map, it&#8217;s just a matter of when. As with any software, a large part of the decision is the cost to benefit analysis. </p>
<p>With version 3.11 we just upgraded from an older version to the latest, and this involved a very significant amount of effort. Every single report had to be modified and adjusted in many places (over 100 reports), as well the code base had changed in many ways which required a good number of code changes in our application as well.</p>
<p>So to answer your question, yes we plan to upgrade, it&#8217;s just a matter of when.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.followsteph.com/2006/11/27/landlordmax-v311-sneak-peak/comment-page-1/#comment-2114</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sounds like some very impressive performance.  If I am correct from what I observed in your screen shots, your reporting system uses JFreeReport.  Do you have any plans to switch to JFreeReport 0.9 when it becomes production-ready?   According to the latest update on the JFree forums, 0.9 is supposed to have much better performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds like some very impressive performance.  If I am correct from what I observed in your screen shots, your reporting system uses JFreeReport.  Do you have any plans to switch to JFreeReport 0.9 when it becomes production-ready?   According to the latest update on the JFree forums, 0.9 is supposed to have much better performance.</p>
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