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		<title>By: Steph</title>
		<link>http://www.followsteph.com/2007/01/24/school-versus-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-4836</link>
		<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 02:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nguyen,

I think I might not have conveyed my point here as well as I had hoped because it seems to have come across wrong. What I was trying to get at is not that we cheat as employees, but that perhaps the academic world should look more at how the real world works and promote collaboration and teamwork a lot more! That in the real world working with others will often get you much further than trying to do everything yourself. 

Also, it&#039;s my personal opinion that not everyone is skilled at teamwork. For some people it comes naturally, but for a lot of others it a learned skill. On a side note this is something that I personally found woefully inadequate in my academic life that luckily I managed to get on my own.

In any case, I wasn&#039;t trying to say that people are cheating by working, but rather that academia is not right in considering collaboration and teamwork on assignments cheating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nguyen,</p>
<p>I think I might not have conveyed my point here as well as I had hoped because it seems to have come across wrong. What I was trying to get at is not that we cheat as employees, but that perhaps the academic world should look more at how the real world works and promote collaboration and teamwork a lot more! That in the real world working with others will often get you much further than trying to do everything yourself. </p>
<p>Also, it&#8217;s my personal opinion that not everyone is skilled at teamwork. For some people it comes naturally, but for a lot of others it a learned skill. On a side note this is something that I personally found woefully inadequate in my academic life that luckily I managed to get on my own.</p>
<p>In any case, I wasn&#8217;t trying to say that people are cheating by working, but rather that academia is not right in considering collaboration and teamwork on assignments cheating.</p>
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		<title>By: Nguyen</title>
		<link>http://www.followsteph.com/2007/01/24/school-versus-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-4830</link>
		<dc:creator>Nguyen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 00:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a software engineer, and I do not pay others to build the modules I am assigned to work on by my boss.  It is my job, my duty.  I am paid because I can engineer products, not because I can gather a team to engineer them for me (that is the job of my boss). 

Same as in the academic world.  When I was in school, my job is to study, and thus I was not supposed to pay others to study for me.  If I am to learn about designing software, I must design it myself, not to have others to do that for me.

So, the real world is no more cheating than the academic world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a software engineer, and I do not pay others to build the modules I am assigned to work on by my boss.  It is my job, my duty.  I am paid because I can engineer products, not because I can gather a team to engineer them for me (that is the job of my boss). </p>
<p>Same as in the academic world.  When I was in school, my job is to study, and thus I was not supposed to pay others to study for me.  If I am to learn about designing software, I must design it myself, not to have others to do that for me.</p>
<p>So, the real world is no more cheating than the academic world.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.followsteph.com/2007/01/24/school-versus-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-4672</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference in the real world is that you&#039;re not expected to do the work yourself.  The concept of &quot;cheating&quot; goes out the window once the rules against it are thrown away.

Once you&#039;re out of school, only results matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference in the real world is that you&#8217;re not expected to do the work yourself.  The concept of &#8220;cheating&#8221; goes out the window once the rules against it are thrown away.</p>
<p>Once you&#8217;re out of school, only results matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Steph</title>
		<link>http://www.followsteph.com/2007/01/24/school-versus-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-4671</link>
		<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rob,

In that respect, you&#039;re right you won&#039;t claim you drew up the contract. But in another respect you will claim you bought the property, you did your due diligence, you found the great deal (was it your Realtor?), you made a profit from it, and so...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rob,</p>
<p>In that respect, you&#8217;re right you won&#8217;t claim you drew up the contract. But in another respect you will claim you bought the property, you did your due diligence, you found the great deal (was it your Realtor?), you made a profit from it, and so&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rob J</title>
		<link>http://www.followsteph.com/2007/01/24/school-versus-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-4654</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 04:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not really cheating because someone else has done the work for you, it&#039;s cheating because you&#039;re claiming the work as your own.

When was the last time you had a lawyer draw up a contract, then claim to have done it yourself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not really cheating because someone else has done the work for you, it&#8217;s cheating because you&#8217;re claiming the work as your own.</p>
<p>When was the last time you had a lawyer draw up a contract, then claim to have done it yourself?</p>
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